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Self-assignment to working groups
#poll
Please assign yourself to at least one group by Tuesday, March 5 at 12:00 CEST.
A group coordinator should be chosen, and a suitable hashtag should be created, so that others can easily filter your groups emails. Please continue to use this mailing list (either hackathon or the main BONSAI, you choose what would be best) as the main forum for communication, so others can follow your discussions.
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IMPORTANT - Group, roles, and hackathon preparation
It is time to choose a task or two and start working. Please complete the following ASAP:
Working groups In each of the following groups, I need someone to volunteer to serve as the coordinator. This person will be responsible for organizing the groups work, and completing any deliverables due before the hackathon. The following are only my suggestions - each group can decide on their own how they will work together. You canalso self-organize and create your own working groups! See some ideas in the stretch goals here: https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/hackathon-2019#outputs Python skeleton A framework for building Python libraries that helps people get started quickly. https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/python-skeleton. There is some content there already, needs to have some issues closed and then be tested. The bentso working group depends on this to be finished, so completion of at least the first stage well before the hackathon start is a priority. Output: Github repo BONSAI ontology Suggested coordinator: Bo We will try to reuse existing ontologies as much as possible, but some custom ontology development is inevitable. Key discussion points for this group:
RDF framework Suggested coordinator: Agneta No pressure or anything, but this is the most important working group, as other groups depend on it to produce results in a timely manner. This group will select the overall framework and specific ontologies to be used in the hackathon, and communicate them in a human- and computer-readable fashion. Should include outputs from the BONSAI ontology working group. Output: New github repo with first version of rdf/turtle/whatever, and discussion in issues as to what was chosen and why, before the hackathon start. Updating the bonsai wiki can come during or after the hackathon. Model reproducability Suggested coordinator: Brandon Technical guidelines and examples for interoperable life cycle inventory models models that also meet the standards that Brandon has developed. Should proceed in accordance with bentso, which will be an example of these best practices. Output: New github repo with standards and discussion. Not due before hackathon start. Software development methodology Suggested coordinator: Tomas
Getting started guide Suggested coordinator: Tom Output: New github repo with guides that can be finished in ~15 minutes before start of hackathon. SimaPro integration Suggested coordinator: Rutger Conversion from RDF to SimaPro CSV Output: Documentation of SimaPro CSV format, and library to convert to/from RDF by end of hackathon. bentso model Suggested coordinator: Chris BONSAI living model for European electricity via ENTSO-E API. Output: Working model by the end of the hackathon. Basic querying functionality should be available before hackathon start. Correspondence tables Usable correspondence tables between different schemas, e.g. EXIOBASE/ecoinvent/BONSAI RDF.
I will send out a separate email with a poll with option to sign up for the different groups.
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Use of hastags in groups.io
Please read the following to see how to apply hashtags, and how to mute hastags you aren't interested in:
https://groups.io/static/help#hashtags
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Re: Default BONSAI licenses
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 10:40, Matteo Lissandrini (AAU) <matteo@cs.aau.dk> wrote:
Well, clicking on the giant tab marked "terms of use" and thinking that was the actual terms of use is a pretty understandable "mistake" :) Nice, so for the data we shall use the CC share-alike as well?Can discuss during the hackathon, but my reading is that any data product which builds on EXIOBASE would then need to covered by share-alike as well.
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Weekly Q&A with Chris
Dear all-
I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times). If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts. -Chris Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: BONSAI Q&A
Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich
Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)
Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM
Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM
Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM
Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM
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Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris
Massimo Pizzol
Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience). Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.
(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)
From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Dear all- Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: BONSAI Q&A Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s) Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system. Weekly: https://zoom.us/meeting/973425136/ics?icsToken=0017bcbfb63b8c41eab59e470a763d6602605fd35e3c4de03c0e495c60e54a8e
Join Zoom Meeting https://zoom.us/j/973425136
One tap mobile +41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland +41315280988,,973425136# Switzerland
Dial by your location +41 22 518 9006 Switzerland +41 31 528 0988 Switzerland +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) Meeting ID: 973 425 136 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT
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Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris
This is just an informal chance to ask whatever questions pop into
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your head, no plan to keep minutes, but also not a place to make decisions that would effect BONSAI.
On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 15:44, Massimo Pizzol <massimo@plan.aau.dk> wrote:
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Re: IT requirements for the hackathon
Is it reasonable to assume that all participants are bringing laptops? I guess so.
Personally, I dislike working on just a laptop, hunched over. I am more productive and healthy when plugged into a proper workstation, with a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Is this type of hardware potentially available at the rented hackathon space? Packing our personal equipment into a suitcase is possible, but not ideal if there are appropriate alternatives there.
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Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris
Tiago Morais
Dear all,
This is a great ideia! Unfortunately I also missed yesterday’s zoom call.
As Massimo mentioned, would be very nice have a quick summary.
Regards Tiago --
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Massimo Pizzol
Sent: 1 de março de 2019 14:45 To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris
Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience). Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.
(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)
From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Dear all- Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: BONSAI Q&A Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s) Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.
Join Zoom Meeting
One tap mobile +41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland +41315280988,,973425136# Switzerland
Dial by your location +41 22 518 9006 Switzerland +41 31 528 0988 Switzerland +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) Meeting ID: 973 425 136 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT
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Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris
Miguel Fernández Astudillo
Dear all,
I don’t have the notes with me but I can tell that the call was brief (we where only 4). Here is what I remember.
Working remotely: We talked a bit about how it could work for people volunteering remotely. I think the idea is that everybody is welcome to collaborate to the extent that they feel like. But if you commit to help, try to finish your task, so other tasks of the hackathon depending on it don’t get blocked. We also mentioned that it could be good to do a zoom call at the end of each day to summarise what has been going on.
Data formats: some of the data in the google drive of bonsai is on google spreadsheets. We talked about convert them to a machine-readable format and move them from there. The frictionless data package (https://frictionlessdata.io/) was proposed. We want people to facilitate the collaboration, and formats like csv are quite accessible to a wide public.
Best, Miguel
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tiago Morais
Sent: 02 March 2019 14:35 To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris
Dear all,
This is a great ideia! Unfortunately I also missed yesterday’s zoom call.
As Massimo mentioned, would be very nice have a quick summary.
Regards Tiago --
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Massimo Pizzol
Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience). Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.
(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)
From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Dear all- Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
Topic: BONSAI Q&A Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s) Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.
Join Zoom Meeting
One tap mobile +41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland +41315280988,,973425136# Switzerland
Dial by your location +41 22 518 9006 Switzerland +41 31 528 0988 Switzerland +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) Meeting ID: 973 425 136 Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT
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Re: IT requirements for the hackathon
Bo Weidema
I am sorry to say that we have not had sufficient funding to rent a fully equipped IT-lab. We will have to work with our laptops. Best regards Bo Den 2019-03-02 kl. 11.14 skrev Tom:
Is it reasonable to assume that all participants are bringing laptops? I guess so. --
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Re: IMPORTANT - Group, roles, and hackathon preparation
Dear team participants:
Thanks for signing up! To have an effective hackathon, each team needs to have a detailed plan of what they can realistically accomplish, and prepare adequately beforehand. A common problem in hackathons is that a few people take charge of the project core, and the rest don't really know what needs to be done or how they can contribute. Therefore, please already start thinking and discussing how the skills of the different team members can fit together, how each team member can have agency, and how team management can include remote participants. I have tried to create a graph of project team dependencies. This is just something I came up with on a Sunday morning, you can edit it here (but you will need graphviz installed to generate a new image). Due to the high level of interdependency in the hackathon, please add a section to the hackathon readme with your project team organization as soon as possible.
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Re: Default BONSAI licenses
Bo Weidema
Re. data licenses, we have currently this text: https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bonsai/wiki/Licenses The idea is that BONSAI data should be as open as possible, but
allowing for more restrictive datapoints (dq:observations) as
well, so that the license applicable to any query result will
depend on the datapoint with the most restrictive license. A query
can then filter out those data points that have too restrictive a
license for the intended application. The practical implementation
of this requires a definite hierarchy of license types. Best regards Bo Den 2019-03-01 kl. 10.47 skrev Chris
Mutel:
Nice, so for the data we shall use the CC share-alike as well?Can discuss during the hackathon, but my reading is that any data product which builds on EXIOBASE would then need to covered by share-alike as well.
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Re: IT requirements for the hackathon
Thanks Bo, good to know! I will try to pack a keyboard, mouse and laptop riser then, to work in comfort.
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Re: Default BONSAI licenses
Thanks Bo, this is a very good point! I have updated the language in the wiki slightly.
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Re: Default BONSAI licenses
Matteo Lissandrini (AAU)
This is very nice!
Here some pointers to material that may be of help: https://creativecommons.org/ns https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Ontology_rights_and_licence#Comments_from_V.C3.ADctor_Rodr.C3.ADguez_Doncel http://www.obofoundry.org/ontology/swo.html
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#bentso Bentso model development plans
#bentso
This message is for those who signed up for the bentso model development group; if this isn't you, you can mute the #bentso hashtag.
I have added a project board here: https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bentso/projects/1, and am working on getting the library foundation set up. You are welcome to help (contact me bilaterally), but as you are all signed up for several projects, I think it is easiest if I do this before the hackathon, as I have it all in my head. Before the hackathon, I will prepare the fundamentals: reading the ENTSO-E API. However, it is important that you apply for an API key now, as it can take some time if you are unlucky. Instructions are here: https://entsoe.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000153663-Restful-API-first-steps-general-info-. You should test your key after you get it.
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Start of the #ontology sub-group
#ontology
Bo Weidema
This message is for those who signed up for the ontology
sub-group (Current members: Bo, Elias, Massimo); if this isn't
you, you can mute the #ontology hashtag. Based on the description by Chris and Matteo, I think the tasks for the ontology sub-group, to be distributed among us, is: 1) Upload task description for sub-group (do we need a project
board?) 2) Coordinate tasks with sub-group on RDF (Agneta, Matteo) as it is not completely clear where the borderline between these two groups are 3) Decide on namespacing for the part of the ontology that is BONSAI-specific (i.e., which does not reside elsewhere): Suggestion to use purl.org - or bonsai.org - any other suggestions or arguments for one or the other? 3a) Create a "proper" ontology definition, based on the content
of
https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bonsai/wiki/Data-Storage#specify-minimum-core-data-and-metadata-formats
- in the form of a picture like the one in the "minimal
ontology pattern". Matteo suggests to use the vocabs QB and/or QB4OLAP for
this. This also implies the creation of initial classifications
for activities and flow-objects (including biosphere flows) as per
https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bonsai/wiki/Data%20Integration#classifications-and-correspondence-tables
- ensuring that we also include metadata for our testbench
EXIOBASE dataset. 3b) Complement 3a) with an RDF schema, like in http://tcga.deri.ie/ or http://qweb.cs.aau.dk/qboairbase/ 3c) Place output of 3a) and 3 b) on new github repo. 3d) Link from wiki to 3c) and provide also here any arguments for choices made or alternatives considered. Bo
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Re: Start of the #ontology sub-group
#ontology
I would suggest taking the US EPA flow list as the basis for the
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BONSAI flow list - they have put in quite a lot of work in basing their names and metadata on accepted standards and ontologies. https://github.com/USEPA/Federal-LCA-Commons-Elementary-Flow-List. The processing scripts aren't complete, but you can download the current output here: https://github.com/USEPA/Federal-LCA-Commons-Elementary-Flow-List/tree/master/fedelemflowlist/output Wes said that they should have a complete 1.0 release in a few months.
On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 12:46, Bo Weidema <bo.weidema@bonsai.uno> wrote:
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Re: Start of the #ontology sub-group
#ontology
Hi Thanks for this message Bo. Actually I am currently working on points 3a and 3b,- Using existing LCA ontology ( based on BONSAI wiki and Kuczenski et al (2016)) as a starting point to develop an RDF schema . So I am not entirely sure if there is much difference between the groups BONSAI ontology and an RDF framework. Agneta
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