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Re: Default BONSAI licenses

Bo Weidema
 

Re. data licenses, we have currently this text: https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bonsai/wiki/Licenses

The idea is that BONSAI data should be as open as possible, but allowing for more restrictive datapoints (dq:observations) as well, so that the license applicable to any query result will depend on the datapoint with the most restrictive license. A query can then filter out those data points that have too restrictive a license for the intended application. The practical implementation of this requires a definite hierarchy of license types.

Best regards

Bo

Den 2019-03-01 kl. 10.47 skrev Chris Mutel:

Nice, so for the data we shall use the CC share-alike as well?
Can discuss during the hackathon, but my reading is that any data
product which builds on EXIOBASE would then need to covered by
share-alike as well.


Re: IMPORTANT - Group, roles, and hackathon preparation

 

Dear team participants:

Thanks for signing up! To have an effective hackathon, each team needs to have a detailed plan of what they can realistically accomplish, and prepare adequately beforehand. A common problem in hackathons is that a few people take charge of the project core, and the rest don't really know what needs to be done or how they can contribute. Therefore, please already start thinking and discussing how the skills of the different team members can fit together, how each team member can have agency, and how team management can include remote participants.

I have tried to create a graph of project team dependencies. This is just something I came up with on a Sunday morning, you can edit it here (but you will need graphviz installed to generate a new image). Due to the high level of interdependency in the hackathon, please add a section to the hackathon readme with your project team organization as soon as possible.


Re: IT requirements for the hackathon

Bo Weidema
 

I am sorry to say that we have not had sufficient funding to rent a fully equipped IT-lab. We will have to work with our laptops.

Best regards

Bo

Den 2019-03-02 kl. 11.14 skrev Tom:

Is it reasonable to assume that all participants are bringing laptops? I guess so.
Personally, I dislike working on just a laptop, hunched over. I am more productive and healthy when plugged into a proper workstation, with a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Is this type of hardware potentially available at the rented hackathon space? Packing our personal equipment into a suitcase is possible, but not ideal if there are appropriate alternatives there.
--


Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris

Miguel Fernández Astudillo
 

Dear all,

 

I don’t have the notes with me but I can tell that the call was brief (we where only 4). Here is what I remember.

 

Working remotely: We talked a bit about how it could work for people volunteering remotely. I think the idea is that everybody is welcome to collaborate to the extent that they feel like. But if you commit to help, try to finish your task, so other tasks of the hackathon depending on it don’t get blocked. We also mentioned that it could be good to do a zoom call at the end of each day to summarise what has been going on.

 

Data formats: some of the data in the google drive of bonsai is on google spreadsheets. We talked about convert them to a machine-readable format and move them from there. The frictionless data package (https://frictionlessdata.io/) was proposed. We want people to facilitate the collaboration, and formats like csv are quite accessible to a wide public.

 

Best, Miguel

 

From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tiago Morais
Sent: 02 March 2019 14:35
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Dear all,

 

This is a great ideia!

Unfortunately I also missed yesterday’s zoom call.

 

As Massimo mentioned, would be very nice have a quick summary.

 

Regards

Tiago

--
Tiago G. Morais
Instituto Superior Técnico - Universidade de Lisboa/University of Lisbon
MARETEC/LARSYS
Área Científica de Ambiente e Energia/Environment and Energy Scientific Area
Departamento de Engenharia Mecânica/Department of Mechanical Engineering 
Pavilhão de Mecânica I | Av. Rovisco Pais, 1 | 1049-001 Lisbon, Portugal
Tel: +351 21 841 98 77 | ext. 3877

 

From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Massimo Pizzol
Sent: 1 de março de 2019 14:45
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience).  Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.

 

(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)


Massimo

 

 

From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Reply-To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Date: Friday, 1 March 2019 at 12.22
To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Subject: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Dear all-

I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times). 

If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts.

-Chris

Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: BONSAI Q&A

Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich

        Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)

        Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM

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Join Zoom Meeting

 

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Meeting ID: 973 425 136

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT

 


Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris

Tiago Morais
 

Dear all,

 

This is a great ideia!

Unfortunately I also missed yesterday’s zoom call.

 

As Massimo mentioned, would be very nice have a quick summary.

 

Regards

Tiago

--
Tiago G. Morais
Instituto Superior Técnico - Universidade de Lisboa/University of Lisbon
MARETEC/LARSYS
Área Científica de Ambiente e Energia/Environment and Energy Scientific Area
Departamento de Engenharia Mecânica/Department of Mechanical Engineering 
Pavilhão de Mecânica I | Av. Rovisco Pais, 1 | 1049-001 Lisbon, Portugal
Tel: +351 21 841 98 77 | ext. 3877

 

From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> On Behalf Of Massimo Pizzol
Sent: 1 de março de 2019 14:45
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience).  Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.

 

(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)


Massimo

 

 

From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Reply-To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Date: Friday, 1 March 2019 at 12.22
To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Subject: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Dear all-

I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times). 

If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts.

-Chris

Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: BONSAI Q&A

Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich

        Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)

        Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM

Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.

 

Join Zoom Meeting

 

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        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)

Meeting ID: 973 425 136

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT

 


Re: IT requirements for the hackathon

Tom
 

Is it reasonable to assume that all participants are bringing laptops? I guess so.
Personally, I dislike working on just a laptop, hunched over. I am more productive and healthy when plugged into a proper workstation, with a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
Is this type of hardware potentially available at the rented hackathon space? Packing our personal equipment into a suitcase is possible, but not ideal if there are appropriate alternatives there.


Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

This is just an informal chance to ask whatever questions pop into
your head, no plan to keep minutes, but also not a place to make
decisions that would effect BONSAI.

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 15:44, Massimo Pizzol <massimo@...> wrote:

Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience). Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.



(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)


Massimo





From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel=gmail.com@groups.io>
Reply-To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Date: Friday, 1 March 2019 at 12.22
To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Subject: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris



Dear all-

I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times).

If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts.

-Chris

Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.



Topic: BONSAI Q&A

Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich

Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)

Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM

Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM

Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM

Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM

Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.

Weekly: https://zoom.us/meeting/973425136/ics?icsToken=0017bcbfb63b8c41eab59e470a763d6602605fd35e3c4de03c0e495c60e54a8e



Join Zoom Meeting

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One tap mobile

+41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland

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Dial by your location

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+1 646 558 8656 US (New York)

Meeting ID: 973 425 136

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT



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Paul Scherrer Institut
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Switzerland
http://chris.mutel.org
Telefon: +41 56 310 5787
############################


Re: Weekly Q&A with Chris

Massimo Pizzol
 

Unfortunately I have missed today’s zoom (little last minute inconvenience).  Will you perhaps make a quick summary or share some notes? Some of the Q&A might be useful to others.

 

(In general, very good idea to schedule a fix weekly meeting! Thumbs up!)


Massimo

 

 

From: <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io> on behalf of "Chris Mutel via Groups.Io" <cmutel@...>
Reply-To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Date: Friday, 1 March 2019 at 12.22
To: "hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io" <hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io>
Subject: [hackathon2019] Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Dear all-

I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times). 

If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts.

-Chris

Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.

 

Topic: BONSAI Q&A

Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich

        Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)

        Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM

        Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM

Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.

Weekly: https://zoom.us/meeting/973425136/ics?icsToken=0017bcbfb63b8c41eab59e470a763d6602605fd35e3c4de03c0e495c60e54a8e

 

Join Zoom Meeting

https://zoom.us/j/973425136

 

One tap mobile

+41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland

+41315280988,,973425136# Switzerland

 

Dial by your location

        +41 22 518 9006 Switzerland

        +41 31 528 0988 Switzerland

        +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose)

        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)

Meeting ID: 973 425 136

Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT

 


Weekly Q&A with Chris

 

Dear all-

I have scheduled a weekly Q&A session with myself for any questions or comments you might have at whatever stage your group is at. It will be every Friday at 15:00-15:30 CET, starting today, until the hackathon (i.e. 4 times). 

If you haven't used Zoom before, this is a chance to test it out before the hackathon starts.

-Chris

Chris Mutel is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting.
 
Topic: BONSAI Q&A
Time: Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM Zurich
        Every week on Fri, 4 occurrence(s)
        Mar 1, 2019 3:00 PM
        Mar 8, 2019 3:00 PM
        Mar 15, 2019 3:00 PM
        Mar 22, 2019 3:00 PM
Please download and import the following iCalendar (.ics) files to your calendar system.
Weekly: https://zoom.us/meeting/973425136/ics?icsToken=0017bcbfb63b8c41eab59e470a763d6602605fd35e3c4de03c0e495c60e54a8e
 
Join Zoom Meeting
https://zoom.us/j/973425136
 
One tap mobile
+41225189006,,973425136# Switzerland
+41315280988,,973425136# Switzerland
 
Dial by your location
        +41 22 518 9006 Switzerland
        +41 31 528 0988 Switzerland
        +1 408 638 0968 US (San Jose)
        +1 646 558 8656 US (New York)
Meeting ID: 973 425 136
Find your local number: https://zoom.us/u/acD3QzOJCT
 


Re: Default BONSAI licenses

 

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 10:40, Matteo Lissandrini (AAU) <matteo@...> wrote:

I missed that, thanks!
Well, clicking on the giant tab marked "terms of use" and thinking
that was the actual terms of use is a pretty understandable "mistake"
:)

Nice, so for the data we shall use the CC share-alike as well?
Can discuss during the hackathon, but my reading is that any data
product which builds on EXIOBASE would then need to covered by
share-alike as well.


Use of hastags in groups.io

 

Please read the following to see how to apply hashtags, and how to mute hastags you aren't interested in:

https://groups.io/static/help#hashtags


IMPORTANT - Group, roles, and hackathon preparation

 

It is time to choose a task or two and start working. Please complete the following ASAP:

  •  Register with Github
  • Get familiar with the Github pull request (PR) workflow: https://guides.github.com/introduction/flow/. Set up a practice repo and do a dummy PR if this is new for you.
  • Add your username to https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/hackathon-2019/blob/master/Participants.md. If you don't have write permission, submit a PR
There will be more tasks coming as we prepare intro stuff and make specific technical decisions :)

Working groups

In each of the following groups, I need someone to volunteer to serve as the coordinator. This person will be responsible for organizing the groups work, and completing any deliverables due before the hackathon.

The following are only my suggestions - each group can decide on their own how they will work together. You canalso self-organize and create your own working groups! See some ideas in the stretch goals here: https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/hackathon-2019#outputs

Python skeleton

A framework for building Python libraries that helps people get started quickly. https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/python-skeleton.

There is some content there already, needs to have some issues closed and then be tested.

The bentso working group depends on this to be finished, so completion of at least the first stage well before the hackathon start is a priority.

Output: Github repo

BONSAI ontology

Suggested coordinator: Bo

We will try to reuse existing ontologies as much as possible, but some custom ontology development is inevitable. Key discussion points for this group:
  • List of biosphere flows
  • Namespacing. Instead of the draft Python script, it might be better to use the bonsai.uno as the root of the URIs
There are controversial choices here, so the development should be open. This means:
  • Source data should be included for custom ontologies, e.g. EXIOBASE metadata file, along with code transforming this to the RDF/whatever file
  • Discussion on value judgments should be in Github issues
Output: New github repo with rdf/turtle/whatever, with RDF hosting on bonsai.uno server. A first version should be completed before the hackathon start.

RDF framework

Suggested coordinator: Agneta

No pressure or anything, but this is the most important working group, as other groups depend on it to produce results in a timely manner.

This group will select the overall framework and specific ontologies to be used in the hackathon, and communicate them in a human- and computer-readable fashion. Should include outputs from the BONSAI ontology working group.

Output: New github repo with first version of rdf/turtle/whatever, and discussion in issues as to what was chosen and why, before the hackathon start. Updating the bonsai wiki can come during or after the hackathon.

Model reproducability

Suggested coordinator: Brandon

Technical guidelines and examples for interoperable life cycle inventory models models that also meet the standards that Brandon has developed.

Should proceed in accordance with bentso, which will be an example of these best practices.

Output: New github repo with standards and discussion. Not due before hackathon start.

Software development methodology

Suggested coordinator: Tomas

  •  How to use Github issues, branching, and PRs effectively
  • How to use Python code quality checks effectively
  • How to use kanban boards + SCRUM-lite methodology
Output: Guide in hackathon repo, and presentation (with examples) to be given at beginning of hackathon.

Getting started guide

Suggested coordinator: Tom

Output: New github repo with guides that can be finished in ~15 minutes before start of hackathon.

SimaPro integration

Suggested coordinator: Rutger

Conversion from RDF to SimaPro CSV

Output: Documentation of SimaPro CSV format, and library to convert to/from RDF by end of hackathon.

bentso model

Suggested coordinator: Chris

BONSAI living model for European electricity via ENTSO-E API.

Output: Working model by the end of the hackathon. Basic querying functionality should be available before hackathon start.


Correspondence tables

Usable correspondence tables between different schemas, e.g. EXIOBASE/ecoinvent/BONSAI RDF.
  • Create as datapackage (base format, as this is the easiest for people to edit/consume)
  • Tool to convert to/from RDF
  • Open technical discussion and recommendations on dealing with 1-N, N-1, M-N
  • Python library to apply datapackage to data without thinking
Output: New Github repo. Conversion of existing BONSAI corresponsdence tables and working software by end of hackathon.

I will send out a separate email with a poll with option to sign up for the different groups.


Self-assignment to working groups #poll

 

Please assign yourself to at least one group by Tuesday, March 5 at 12:00 CEST.

A group coordinator should be chosen, and a suitable hashtag should be created, so that others can easily filter your groups emails. Please continue to use this mailing list (either hackathon or the main BONSAI, you choose what would be best) as the main forum for communication, so others can follow your discussions.

Results

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Re: Default BONSAI licenses

Matteo Lissandrini (AAU)
 

I missed that, thanks!

Nice, so for the data we shall use the CC share-alike as well?

Best,
Matteo

________________________________________
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io [hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io] on behalf of Chris Mutel via Groups.Io [cmutel=gmail.com@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 10:16 AM
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Default BONSAI licenses

EXIOBASE is now CC, see
https://www.exiobase.eu/index.php/data-download/exiobase3hyb

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 10:09, Matteo Lissandrini (AAU) <matteo@...> wrote:

I'm fine with BSD for code.

I wanted to ask this before, how does the EXIOBASE EULA [1] affects this project?


Cheers,
Matteo


[1]https://www.exiobase.eu/index.php/terms-of-use





________________________________
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io [hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io] on behalf of Brandon Kuczenski via Groups.Io [bkuczenski=ucsb.edu@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:13 AM
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Default BONSAI licenses

I second BSD.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:09 AM Chris Mutel <@cmutel> wrote:

We should choose a default license for the code and data produced by the hackathon. My first suggestion would be BSD 3-clause (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) for source code, and Creative Commons attribution international for the data (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

- Why not GPL/CC non-commercial? At this point I don't see a reason to adopt a more restrictive license that could limit the spread of BONSAI's ideas and technologies into the private sector.

- Why not CC share-alike? Again, potentially excluding potential contributors seem premature at this stage of the project.

However, this is just my opinion!!! For the work that you do, you can of course choose what licenses to use. And this is a controversial subject, so feel free to express your opinion.


--
Brandon Kuczenski, Ph.D.
Associate Researcher

University of California at Santa Barbara
Institute for Social, Behavioral, and Economic Research
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5131

email: bkuczenski@...


--
############################
Chris Mutel
Technology Assessment Group, LEA
Paul Scherrer Institut
OHSA D22
5232 Villigen PSI
Switzerland
http://chris.mutel.org
Telefon: +41 56 310 5787
############################


Re: Default BONSAI licenses

 

On Fri, 1 Mar 2019 at 10:09, Matteo Lissandrini (AAU) <matteo@...> wrote:

I'm fine with BSD for code.

I wanted to ask this before, how does the EXIOBASE EULA [1] affects this project?


Cheers,
Matteo


[1]https://www.exiobase.eu/index.php/terms-of-use





________________________________
From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io [hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io] on behalf of Brandon Kuczenski via Groups.Io [bkuczenski=ucsb.edu@groups.io]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:13 AM
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Default BONSAI licenses

I second BSD.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:09 AM Chris Mutel <@cmutel> wrote:

We should choose a default license for the code and data produced by the hackathon. My first suggestion would be BSD 3-clause (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) for source code, and Creative Commons attribution international for the data (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

- Why not GPL/CC non-commercial? At this point I don't see a reason to adopt a more restrictive license that could limit the spread of BONSAI's ideas and technologies into the private sector.

- Why not CC share-alike? Again, potentially excluding potential contributors seem premature at this stage of the project.

However, this is just my opinion!!! For the work that you do, you can of course choose what licenses to use. And this is a controversial subject, so feel free to express your opinion.


--
Brandon Kuczenski, Ph.D.
Associate Researcher

University of California at Santa Barbara
Institute for Social, Behavioral, and Economic Research
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5131

email: bkuczenski@...
--
############################
Chris Mutel
Technology Assessment Group, LEA
Paul Scherrer Institut
OHSA D22
5232 Villigen PSI
Switzerland
http://chris.mutel.org
Telefon: +41 56 310 5787
############################


Re: Default BONSAI licenses

Matteo Lissandrini (AAU)
 

I'm fine with BSD for code.

I wanted to ask this before,  how does the  EXIOBASE EULA [1] affects this project?


Cheers,
Matteo


[1]https://www.exiobase.eu/index.php/terms-of-use






From: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io [hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io] on behalf of Brandon Kuczenski via Groups.Io [bkuczenski@...]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:13 AM
To: hackathon2019@bonsai.groups.io
Subject: Re: [hackathon2019] Default BONSAI licenses

I second BSD.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:09 AM Chris Mutel <cmutel@...> wrote:
We should choose a default license for the code and data produced by the hackathon. My first suggestion would be BSD 3-clause (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) for source code, and Creative Commons attribution international for the data (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

- Why not GPL/CC non-commercial? At this point I don't see a reason to adopt a more restrictive license that could limit the spread of BONSAI's ideas and technologies into the private sector.

- Why not CC share-alike? Again, potentially excluding potential contributors seem premature at this stage of the project.

However, this is just my opinion!!! For the work that you do, you can of course choose what licenses to use. And this is a controversial subject, so feel free to express your opinion.



--
Brandon Kuczenski, Ph.D.
Associate Researcher

University of California at Santa Barbara
Institute for Social, Behavioral, and Economic Research
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-5131

email: bkuczenski@...


Re: Hackathon communication programs

 

Dear all-

I would like to clarify the reason and anticipated use of the different communication channels that we have for the hackathon and in the future.

BONSAI is not just open data, but open development, and multiple people have already commented that the development of the existing BONSAI content is not open. For example, the wiki provides a list of selected ontologies, but no record of the debate that led to this selection. We need to do better, and that means true transparency in decision making on a small- and large-scale.

Mailing list:

Main place of discussion for BONSAI topics, especially for those which require a bit of thinking and broader community engagement. Indexed and archived, easily discoverable via web searches.

LinkedIn:

Used by management to disseminate BONSAI announcements to a wider professional network. Not for discussion, can be ignored by most BONSAI participants.

Slack:

Used for quick messages or coordination, primarily during the hackathon itself. Especially useful for coordinating smaller teams. Technical debates should primarily occur via Github issues for the repository in question.

Zoom.us:

Used for videoconferencing. ASAP we will start routinely recording and posting these conferences (opportunity for one of you to volunteer and write a guide).

bonsai.uno:

Read-only introductory content

https://github.com/BONSAMURAIS/bonsai

Should only be used for the wiki - other content types should each be in its own repository.

Other Github repositories

Technical discussion of bugs, feature suggestions, and design decisions (via the projects board and issues)

Tom Millross will be doing an audit of our current communication channels, and making suggestions to be gentle with people new to BONSAI, before the hackathon.

As always, your suggestions and comments are welcome!


Re: Default BONSAI licenses

Brandon Kuczenski
 

I second BSD.

On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 12:09 AM Chris Mutel <cmutel@...> wrote:
We should choose a default license for the code and data produced by the hackathon. My first suggestion would be BSD 3-clause (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) for source code, and Creative Commons attribution international for the data (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

- Why not GPL/CC non-commercial? At this point I don't see a reason to adopt a more restrictive license that could limit the spread of BONSAI's ideas and technologies into the private sector.

- Why not CC share-alike? Again, potentially excluding potential contributors seem premature at this stage of the project.

However, this is just my opinion!!! For the work that you do, you can of course choose what licenses to use. And this is a controversial subject, so feel free to express your opinion.



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University of California at Santa Barbara
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Default BONSAI licenses

 

We should choose a default license for the code and data produced by the hackathon. My first suggestion would be BSD 3-clause (https://opensource.org/licenses/BSD-3-Clause) for source code, and Creative Commons attribution international for the data (https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/).

- Why not GPL/CC non-commercial? At this point I don't see a reason to adopt a more restrictive license that could limit the spread of BONSAI's ideas and technologies into the private sector.

- Why not CC share-alike? Again, potentially excluding potential contributors seem premature at this stage of the project.

However, this is just my opinion!!! For the work that you do, you can of course choose what licenses to use. And this is a controversial subject, so feel free to express your opinion.


IT requirements for the hackathon

 

1. I will be providing a small NAS/git server to facilitate collaboration during the hackathon, in case our internet goes down or is not a good as we think. On this box, I will have the EXIOBASE data and the developed correspondence tables to/from the different classification systems that we will be using. Please suggest any other data that you think would be helpful!

Note that this NAS is a Raspberry Pi, and so it can't do any really difficult tasks.

2. We have a server at Univ. Aalborg running a Jena (http://jena.apache.org/) database. However, we would also like to be able to deploy web apps as subdomains of bonsai.uno. Bo, how much flexibility do we have here? It would be good to have public documentation of the BONSAI architecture, including registrar, hosting of bonsai.uno, etc.

3. Are there any other IT needs or suggestions?